Comments received during 60 day public comment period for Pell for Students Who Are Incarcerated Experimental Site Initiative – Docket Number ED-2015-ICCD-0110.
Name of Commenter |
Comment |
Department of Education Response |
Hello. Thank you for the chance to comment on the use of Pell
monies for incarcerated individuals. |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. In the notice that announced this experiment, postsecondary institutions were invited to submit a letter of application expressing interest in participating in the experiment. We are currently in the process of reviewing those letters of interest. Once the institutions have been selected to participate in the experiment, they must partner with Federal or State correctional facilities to provide eligible postsecondary educational programs.
To clarify one point of your comment, for an otherwise eligible student to be denied a Pell Grant based on a drug conviction, the conviction would have had to take place while the student was receiving Federal Student Aid. This prohibition does not look back to previous drug convictions that occurred when the individual was not receiving Federal Student Aid.
Again thank you for your support of the Second Chance Pell Experimental Site Initiative.
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Wendy Fast |
Education can help the incarcerated to become contributing members of society. Education is a cornerstone for a democracy. |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility to incarcerated individuals. |
Maddie Neufeld |
I worked in a college in prison program through Wesleyan University and saw firsthand the ways in which a quality college education can be so transformative. The incarcerated students gained both academic skills -- a critical lens for understanding and interpreting the world around them -- and a newfound identity; they came to see themselves as scholars rather than criminals. The students had an incredible passion for learning, and took ownership of their studies in a way that few main campus Wesleyan students did. The program has an incredibly low reentry rate for released students. For these reasons, among others, the Second Chance Pell should be more than a pilot program; Congress should and reinstate Pell grant eligibility for all incarcerated individuals! |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility as it relates to incarcerated individuals. |
Kevin Tran |
After doing some research, I fully support education programs in prisons. Incarcerated individuals who want to enrich their lives and have a sense of pride and purpose can find that through education. By receiving an education, incarcerated individuals will be able to learn valuable skills that they can use in the work force. Employers are always looking for individuals with skill sets and this is something that can help them become more successful and financially independent. Based on some statistics, there are low reentry rates for those who receive an education. Since it is very expensive to keep individuals in prison, The Second Chance Pell grant is well worth the investment to give them the resources to receive an education. In this situation, everybody wins! |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility as it relates to incarcerated individuals.
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William Loflin |
It is very appropriate that this initiative is also referred to as
the Project Second Chance Pell Initiative. We are a country of
second chances. Most of my experience has been in a community
college. We often abbreviate our name using two "Cs."
Maybe the two "Cs" should stand for two chances. |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility as it relates to incarcerated individuals.
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Sherri Caldellis |
I fully support bringing back Pell grants for prisoners. In my opinion this decision is years overdue. We know that higher education has a direct impact on recidivism. We know that many of these men and women have a release date and will re-join society. We know if they are not given the tools or skills to gain knowledge and higher education there is a very high likelihood that they will reoffend and return back to prison. How can it be fair to tax payers to imprison more people than any other country in the world? I say this is simply one small step that is fair to the tax payers. It is simply the right thing to do! |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility as it relates to incarcerated individuals.
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May Lim |
As a university student, I know what it is like to have someone
invest in me - to have parents and teachers who genuinely care for
me and who have contributed to my success since I was born. I know
what it is like to have the option of pursuing an education and to
have the means to actually do so. I know what it is like to see
the world through a different lens after an enlightening lecture
or philosophical discussion, as though I myself had just stepped
out of Plato's allegorical cave. I recognize how fortunate I truly am to have the freedom to decide my future. It is this sentiment that drives my desire to provide prisoners with necessary tools to achieve the same success I have found. Long ago, someone made an investment in me. This is why I urge you to invest in these prisoners by lifting the statutory ban on incarcerated individuals for receiving Federal Pell Grants to help fund their postsecondary educational programs. |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility as it relates to incarcerated individuals.
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Kevin Rose |
(1) Is this collection necessary to the proper functions of the
Department After working with incarcerated populations over the last few
years there are a few more things I believe should be considered
for IHE's granting Pell to incarcerated students. |
Thank you for your comments regarding the information collection instrument for the Second Chance Pell Experiment under the Department of Education’s Experimental Sites Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. In the August 3, 2-15 Federal Register Notice that announced the Second Chance Pell Experiment we note some of the requirements of the experiment which include some of items that you mentioned. These requirements include that IHE’s partner and work closely with correctional facilities for areas such as academic programs, applying for federal student aid, and plans for academic and career guidance. We will work closely with stakeholders to address many of the additional concerns you provide in your comments.
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Vera Institute of Justice |
The Vera Institute of Justice has the following comments on the
Second Chance Pell Pilot Program information collection
instrument. |
Thank you for your comments regarding the information collection instrument for the Second Chance Pell Experiment under the Department of Education’s Experimental Sites Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country.
Considering the variety of institutions and programs that may participate in this experiment, as well as the variety of correctional institutions and student demographics, the instrument did not provide narrow or specific questions and inquiries. Rather, the information collection instrument seeks to obtain from institutions their individual visions of their programs. However, we have updated the instrument to include information on community organization partnerships, providing documentation if available, criteria for students accepted into the programs.
We also believe that some of the comments you provided may be beneficial to include during the evaluation stages of their experiment. As a result your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate office for future consideration. |
Gary Cale |
I would like to comment on the necessity of programmatic and
administrative support on both sides of the equation, but in
particular on the higher education side. To offer a successful
postsecondary programs inside carceral [sic] settings requires
extensive preparation, maintenance, and evaluation; in essence,
the higher education institution will be creating an extension
campus with all the same needs and requirements of a traditional
campus. First, program directors must create a comprehensive
program leading, when possible, to certificate or degree
completion. A robust offering of courses should satisfy students
who plan on finishing associate or baccalaureate degrees and those
who plan on entering the workforce upon release. Often, the
courses offered and the materials used in those courses--must be
negotiated with Corrections administrators. What is approved one
semester may not be the next semester. Second, program directors
must ensure that the courses offered meet and exceed the standards
of classes taught outside the walls. At present, safety and
security concerns preclude internet access, for instance,
requiring program directors, in collaboration with instructors, to
modify existing materials to work within the carceral [sic]
learning environment. Third, program directors must insure that
faculty are both properly credentialed to teach the courses
offered, but perhaps as important, attitudinally prepared to teach
inside a correctional facility. To ensure the latter, program
directors must offer faculty training, remediation when necessary,
and support. Part of the training will necessarily require
collaboration with Corrections. Program directors will also need
to coordinate with other departments on the regular campus
including financial aid, student services, library services, and
information technology, to name but a few. |
Thank you for your comments regarding the information collection instrument for the Second Chance Pell Experiment under the Department of Education’s Experimental Sites Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. We will work closely with stakeholders to address many of the areas your comments mention such as programmatic and administrative requirements, needs, and support. |
Christopher Scott |
Due to the length of the comments please refer to document ED-2015-ICCD-0110-0015 for the complete submission. Below are the abbreviated recommendations. . . RECOMMENDATIONS 1. Include additional requirements in the Second Chance Pell Survey Instrument to ensure that applicants have the existing infrastructure, supports, and partnerships necessary to provide incarcerated students with quality instruction and employment opportunities. A. Require participating institutions to describe the level of on-site materials and technology available for post-secondary education/training programs B. Require participating programs to detail how in-person and correspondence programs would operate C. Require institutions with existing partnerships with employers to show how they will include incarcerated students in existing programs D. Ensure that participating programs have in place a mechanism for transfer of credits E. Ensure that instructors teaching incarcerated students have demonstrated teaching experience and credentials comparable to higher education faculty F. Ensure that participating institutions can demonstrate access to technology: G. Promoting Partnerships and Memoranda of Understanding (MOUs) between postsecondary institutions and correctional facilities H. Existing educational/training programming (not just post-secondary) 2. Programs must be made available and accessible to as many incarcerated students who wish to participate as possible. 3. Ensure that student records, transcripts, degree status, and completion progress are available upon request and in a timely manner to incarcerated and released students. 4. Develop resources, infrastructure and standards to help connect incarcerated and released students with local community-based and national education and reentry programs. 5. Programs should offer education and training for a variety of occupations, particularly high demand occupations from which students would not be barred due to their criminal record. 6. Institutions and facilities participating in the ESI should collect and report data on student outcomes. |
Thank you for your comments regarding the information collection instrument for the Second Chance Pell Experiment under the Department of Education’s Experimental Sites Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. We do believe that some of the comments you provide may be beneficial to include during the evaluations of the experiment. As a result, your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate office for future consideration. |
Heather Gay |
Prisoner Education in Michigan is a, "Pathways from Prison to Post Secondary" grant recipient. The intent of this movement has been to develop a systematic change that enables offenders to initiate postsecondary education while incarcerated, to assist them in taking their first steps toward higher education and successful reentry into our communities. I continue to witness the role that Postsecondary Education plays in preparing offenders for success. It has been a culture change! I can't imagine the profound impact that Experimental Pell will have on our nation's Correctional systems. |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility to incarcerated individuals. |
Ronald Day |
Funding college prison programs through Pell grants are
indisputably a cost-effective means of reducing recidivism and
achieving public safety. But they do something else - something
equally significant. They send a message that America is ready to
acknowledge that its historically punitive, restrictive, and
non-rehabilitative approach to incarceration is antiquated and
ineffective. Reinstating Pell (and Tap grants for that matter)
sends the message that we, as a society, are willing to own the
failures of our public school system, and demonstrate that we
truly believe in Second Chances. Moreover, college prison programs
is one small but significant step in stopping the "revolving
door" that so many criminal justice-involved individuals go
through when they reenter society with little-to-no-education or
marketable skills. |
Thank you for your support of this Experimental Site Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. Once the experiment concludes, Congress will have access to the final data analysis to assist in decisions related to Federal Pell Grant eligibility to incarcerated individuals. |
Daniel Karpowitz |
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Second Chance Pell Experimental Sites Initiative.
With regard to I.c.3: Most existing programs have struggled to support postsecondary education for incarcerated adults over the past two decades, and funding for these programs is likely to remain highly uncertain in the future. Many exemplary programs have been precariously funded through private philanthropy. Those programs typically exist on a semester-by-semester basis, struggling to meet expenses and payroll, and they should not be penalized for initiative or past effort. Without any government support, these institutions continue to lack any certainty about how they will be sustained from one fiscal year to the next. In the absence of state or federal legislation to the contrary, this will remain the case. In this context of existential doubt, any and all Pell funding would and should be considered supplemental. The Department’s concern under I.c.3 should be focused exclusively on not supplanting structural, state-level public funding or other sources of funding that are committed to institutions on a long-term basis. In assessing whether or not Pell experimental funding is supplanting existing financial support, the Department should not calculate charitable gifts, philanthropy, or other insecure and unpredictable sources of funding that provide institutions little in the way budgetary certainty. Any alternative approach effectively penalizes charitable giving and the efforts to engage private money. It would in fact undermine the long-term sustainability of programs during and beyond the Pell experiment.
With regard to 2.b: All college-in-prison programs rely on the cooperation and endorsement of correctional authorities, without which they would not exist. Given the unique opportunity created by the Second Chance Pell Experiment, it is important to ensure that the Department of Education maintains appropriate influence in the selection of educational programs and providers. We suggest that the Department of Education select experimental programs on its own assessment of the merits of the various proposals it has received from IHEs. Corrections officials and/or state executives could then decide whether or not to partner with such programs. The Pell experiment will yield preferred outcomes if the Department of Education grants opportunities for funding based on educational merit and experimental utility, and leaves access to the prisons for those IHEs to negotiate following the selection process. Educators will be empowered, prisons transformed, and outcomes improved if negotiations between correctional authorities and educators take place after, and not before, decisions by the Department of Education.
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Thank you for your comments regarding the information collection instrument for the Second Chance Pell Experiment under the Department of Education’s Experimental Sites Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. We will work closely with stakeholders to address many of the areas your comments mention such as supplanting existing financial support and institutions of higher education’s partnerships with correctional facilities.
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Bianca Van Heydoorn |
As a provider of a college program in correctional setting, we
congratulate the DoE on its effort to expand access to higher
education. The comments below are from our experience doing the
work on the ground, engaging in collaborative learning with our
colleagues and conducting research on college access for people
with criminal records. |
Thank you for your comments regarding the information collection instrument for the Second Chance Pell Experiment under the Department of Education’s Experimental Sites Initiative. The Department has received a great deal of interest in the Second Chance Pell experiment from postsecondary institutions across the country. We have considered many of your comments and will address them in the implementation of the experiment. |
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